hmmm, I am using a graphic design tool. placing elements effectively and quickly is a critical capability in my mind.. Yes, I went to the XML, I did not have the success that I desired. when pasting into the source file how does one specify the location of components on the page? From one report to another the location differs. also, switching between design and source always puts you back at the top of the source xml..... lame even if yuou change nothing in the design tab Beginning search for a new design tool for future applications. I hear people rave about JasperReports and it definitely provides some serious capabilities, but to forget the usability capabillities is a foul for sure.