spipe wrote: dont use a rectagle if it s urgent but a background color:lol: The problem with the way you suggest, i can have no left/right margin between the text and the box, and that looks ugly and the client doesn't want it like that :( But I found a work around, for each field which needs that box around, i made it into a subreport and put the field and the box in the detail band, so when the detail band stretches because of the stretching field, i tell the surrounding box to stretch with it(RelativeToBandHeight option), so now i can have that darn box around the field! But i still wish there was an easier way to accomplish this!